It is impossible to extrapalate any real data. This is predicated on the false notion that in this country, if you have no means of paying, you will not get care. This is not only a lie, but a damned lie. Anyone who is sick can get care. ANYONE. Let's say you have the best coverage in the world, will you be treated? Yup. Will there be limits? Probably. Can you pay out of pocket? Always. Now, let's say yo have no insurance. Will you be treated? Yup. Will there be limits? Nope. Can you pay put of pocket? Always. You see, when you walk into the ED, they ask about your insurance, but most of the time, the doctors don't wait to see what kind of insurance you have to begin treatment or even continue treatment. Let's say that you don't have insurance and the doctor ordered a specific test or medication, does he/she stop said treatment or test, right in the middle? I don't think so. What if you're admitted to the hosptial and the doctor orders a test, and you have no insurance, will you get that test or dialysis or the surgical procedure? You bet your ass you will. Let's say you need to see a doctor in the outpatient setting. There are clinics, many, many clinics that will take a person with no insurance. In fact, there are social workers, whose job it is to get the non-insured, gov assistance. You can get drugs, procedures, and supplies. Another point is that if people were not getting life saving care b/c they lack coverage, then these physicians that are withholding life-saving care are complicit in manslaughter, no? It is very easy to tell if people died b/c of substandard care (sarcasm). Blind the researcher to insurance and sex and race and everything except the pertinent medical facts. Then look at the chart and what was done. Guaranteed 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time the care will not have changed. Unless the doctors who were working on that patient without insurance, decided they were not going to treat them b/c they had no insurance, then the data would be skewed! Man, this is a lot more complicated then the media and the left would have you believe.
This being said, there are individual cases. These cases defy explanation. Most of the stories you hear about someone not getting this or that are usually lost in translation. However, to change the best health care on the planet for those few cases is not only absurd, it is insane. I'm not talking about "oh you crazy" type of insane. I'm talking about locked up in a ward, getting anti-psychotics type of insane.
I think the real issues that liberals have is not the fact that some people get insurance and some don't it is the fact that people can afford to get insurance and get different options of treatment. for example, Nancy Pelosi can get botox. Some insurances will cover that. Do most? Not if it is not medically necessary. Well, those other people are out of luck. They have to pay out of pocket. Well, what about the poor, should they have botox that is not medically necessary? Well, if they can pay for it, sure! I don't want to pay for it, why should I? You see, it's not about anything more than class-warfare. It's about control. It's about an agenda. It's about anything and everything except truly providing the best health care. If it was about providing the best health care, the liberal harpies would be screaming that we cannot go to a system like UK, Canada, et al.
Our media will distort the news and contort themselves to help the agenda of the left. However, will any of them take the government run health care? The answer is no. The answer is no, because they read what goes on in other countries with their health care service. Remember, the service will decline, because doctors and nurses are human and want to be compensated for their work. Calling us (I am a physician) money hungry and shills for Big Pharma does nothing for your case. Many doctors are refusing to treat a certain type of persons. I know of a surgeon that refuses to treat malpractice attorneys.
Anyway, all you have to do is Google "NHS" and see what kind of hits you get. Here's one to start you on your way.
British NHS- As many as 1,200 patients died amid substandard conditions and care at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust between 2005 and 2008.
(By the way, all of these people had goverment insurance, yet they still died).
On a final note, has anyone done a study to correlate the effects of carrots and mortality? I mean did any of those people that died "prematurely" eat carrots in the past 20 years? Maybe it's the Big Veggie industry that's responsible.